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00:00:00 - Interview introduction / Background information

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Partial Transcript: Interviewer: Today is Monday May 11, 2015. This is an interview with George Kamps

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about growing up in Wisconsin. He discusses going to University of Wisconsin-Green Bay, and then starting work full-time.

GPS: Clintonville (Wisconsin)
Map Coordinates: 44.620, -88.762
Hyperlink: George Kamps
00:03:10 - Receiving draft papers for Vietnam War

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: So end of '68, early '69, January '69 I got my draft papers.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about receiving his draft papers, attending boot camp at Great Lakes Naval Station, and getting delayed entry. He talks about getting married before going on active duty.

GPS: Naval Station Great Lakes, IL
Map Coordinates: 42.312, -87.841
00:06:49 - Attending radar school / reporting to USS Decatur

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: I reported to "A" school, radar school at Great Lakes, in August and then was down there

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about his reasons for going to radar school and living with his wife in California.

GPS: Long Beach Naval Complex (California)
Map Coordinates: 33.746, -118.254
00:11:05 - Deployment to Vietnam

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: So getting back to--we left for overseas in October, took about a month to get over there.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about his station in the Gulf of Tonkin, day-to-day duties, missions, and crossing over the International Date Line.

GPS: Gulf of Tonkin
Map Coordinates: 19.75, 107.75
00:17:07 - Honeymoon in Hong Kong / Returning to the United States

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: The highlight of the trip or that tour to Vietnam was that about six of the wives

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about meeting with his wife in Hong Kong, and buying clothes and a motorcycle. He talks about the journey back to the United States via different countries and going through a hurricane.

GPS: American Samoa
Map Coordinates: -14.306, -170.696
00:27:53 - Returning to college / Becoming a social worker

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: On the way home, we got home in about April, middle of April.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about completing his undergraduate degree, receiving his Master of Social Work degree from University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, and working as a social worker.

GPS: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Wisconsin)
Map Coordinates: 43.078, -87.881
00:33:43 - Daily life on USS Decatur

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Partial Transcript: Interviewer: Can you tell me just a little bit, before we move on, just a little bit about daily life on a ship, everyday life?

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about his daily life on-board ship, working in the Combat Information Center, and recreation activities.

00:39:55 - Experience of anti-war protests

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Partial Transcript: Interviewer: What was your homecoming like? I know a lot of people coming back around that time, in that era had some trouble

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about his homecoming, the awareness of the protests on his campus, and his insulation from the protests.

00:45:13 - Working as a therapist / Starting a veteran support group

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: For me it worked fine. I had a career, I got involved in Green Bay at a marriage and family therapy agency

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about his work as a marriage and family therapist in Green Bay (Wiconsin) and travelling around the area running small support groups for veterans.

00:54:22 - Experiencing burnout as a therapist / Working with the Oneida Nation of Wisconsin

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: I didn't know the term burnout until then. Four years of that, we had grown so much they just kept coming.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about the mental and physical state of veterans he worked with, being overwhelmed by the work and experiencing burnout. He talks about taking a new job with the Oneida Nation of Wisconsin and opening his own private practice.

GPS: Oneida (Wisconsin)
Map Coordinates: 44.479, -88.226
01:03:14 - Establishing Artists for the Humanities (A4TH) Return and Recovery Program for Military Veterans

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: But I met Tim—let's see how did I—Tim Mayer had approached St. Norbert Abbey about the same time when I retired

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about meeting co-founder of Artists for Humanities, Tim Mayer, and setting up the program. He talks about the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and different treatment programs available.

GPS: St. Norbert Abbey, DePere (Wisconsin)
Map Coordinates: 44.457, -88.044
01:09:00 - History of concept of post-trauamtic stress disorder (PTSD) / Memorials for Korean War and Vietnam War veterans

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: Psychiatric roles certainly should be aware of the examples of human overload that we saw in Korea, World War II, World War I, Civil War.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about the history of PTSD, the differences between generations of veterans, and building memorials.

01:13:45 - Awareness of PTSD / Effectiveness of group theapy sessions

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Partial Transcript: Interviewer: Do you remember when, and how, you first became familiar with the phrase PTSD?

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about when the term PTSD was first introduced to him and gives examples of how group therapy sessions can be effective in changing detrimental thinking and behaviors in veterans.

01:20:12 - Group expressive art therapy sessions / Impact of PTSD on veterans' spouses

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: As I got to talk with Tim and then we started doing some of the work we got support from the Abbey

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about beginning monthly art therapy sessions at St. Norbert Abbey, he reflects on the process and method of sessions, and describes some of the experiences that veterans have depicted in artwork. He talks about how the manifestations of PTSD have affected spouses.

01:27:22 - Continued work of Artists for the Humanities

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: That's kind of catching up to Tim and I, and now we've been doing it for five years or so.

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about the art therapy sessions today, Tim Mayer's work at Tomah Veterans Affairs Hospital, finding funding, and working with different outside groups.

GPS: Tomah Veterans Affairs Hospital
Map Coordinates: 44.000, -90.496
01:35:55 - Benefits of expressive art therapy for veterans / Interview conclusion

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Partial Transcript: Kamps: The applications are unlimited as far as how anyone can use that right brain resource to identify

Segment Synopsis: Kamps talks about the positive impacts on the lives of veterans when they take part in art therapy and explains the psychological theories behind it.

See below for link to Session 2 with George Kamps.